Deanna Troi

Star Trek TNG S03E22-24 The Most Toys, Sarek, Ménage à Troi – “We don't talk about Spock” | First Time Reaction – To Baldly Go Podcast (Ep. 056)

This week on The To Baldly Go Podcast, Aaron and Nate continue their release-order watchthrough with three more episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation: "The Most Toys," "Sarek," and "Ménage à Troi."

This week, we get:

  • Evil, terrifying characters

  • Allegory

  • Shakespeare

We covered:

  • The Most Toys

  • Sarek

  • Ménage à Troi

The Most Toys

"The Most Toys" gives us a Data-centered episode that feels like part of the well-oiled machine Season 3 has become. Data is left for dead, which creates an interesting tension problem because, as viewers, we know he is probably going to be safe. Even so, the episode finds its strength in the exploration of loss, adjustment, and the way real-life experience can shape how a story impacts us.

We also spend time discussing Kivas Fajo as a truly evil character, whether Data might be one of the most terrifying people on the Enterprise, and the uncomfortable question of what Data was prepared to do at the end of the episode. Also, Data lied.

Sarek

"Sarek" is a great episode and another reminder that The Next Generation is now clearly its own show while still remaining connected to The Original Series. Patrick Stewart delivers a remarkable performance as Sarek’s mind, and the episode gives us a lot to talk about when it comes to aging, dignity, emotional control, and how we respond when people we admire begin to decline.

We also discuss whether "Sarek" works as an allegory for Alzheimer’s or dementia, and the strange writing rule that apparently prevented the episode from directly referencing Spock.

Ménage à Troi

"Ménage à Troi" is one of those episodes where the title does not exactly inspire confidence. Still, Lwaxana Troi continues to grow on Aaron as a character, Shakespeare becomes a major part of the episode, and the Ferengi return to cause trouble in the way only the Ferengi can.

After the heavier conversations in "The Most Toys" and "Sarek," this episode gives us a very different kind of Star Trek discussion.

Final Thoughts

This set of episodes gives us evil collectors, aging Vulcans, emotional allegory, Shakespeare, Ferengi nonsense, and one very important question:

Do we talk about Spock?

Listen now to To Baldly Go Podcast Episode 056 as we continue our first-time journey through Star Trek: The Next Generation.

Where we are on our Trek:

Last week we covered:

Next week we will continue with:

If you want to see my journey from the very beginning, start here:

Also, be sure to check out Nate’s and my other podcast – The In Lap with Aaron and Nate – to listen to us discuss all things Formula 1 on race weekends, wherever you listen to your podcasts.

Star Trek TNG S02E01-03 The Child, Where Silence Has Lease, Elementary Dear Data – “Not Very Effective” | First Time Reaction – To Baldly Go Podcast (Ep. 041)

First-Time Watch – Star Trek: TNG Season 02, Episodes 01-03

Welcome to another episode of the To Baldly Go Podcast, in which I – a newbie to the Star Trek universe – am watching through Star Trek from the beginning, in release order, and discussing with some of my long-time Trekkie friends.

This week, we get:

  • New characters and Star Trek grows a beard

  • Word of the day: Effective

  • The unchanging concerns over AI

We covered:

  • The Child

  • Where Silence Has Lease

  • Elementary, Dear Data

“The Child” – Is it worse than Code of Honor?  Not quite…

Deanna Troi is impregnated by space dust that is curious about the human experience.

Things we discussed:

  • The start of Abbie loving these characters

  • Simple changes could have made it seem much less space-rapey

  • Character changes

  • Twilight

  • Debating character growth

  • Riker’s beard

There are better ways to explore the human experience.

“Where Silence Has Lease” – Did we ever make it out of the Matrix?

The Enterprise is trapped in a void with an entity that is exploring the limits of humanity.

Things we discussed:

  • How primitive Picard and crew are

  • A better exploration of humanity

  • The Expanse comparisons (Abaddon’s Gate)

  • A worse version of Q?

  • An uninspiring villain?

  • Learning all that you need to know

Another Talosian Illusion incident?  Did the Enterprise and crew get out?  Or is everything from this point forward occurring in the Void?

“Elementary, Dear Data” – AI versus humanity

Sherlock Data’s mysteries are too simple, so a new holodeck program is set up which becomes self-aware.

Things we discussed:

  • AI conversations today versus the late-1980s

  • Recitation does not mean understanding

  • Near consensus

  • Exploring Data’s humanity

  • Working with your hands, transcending time

  • Is Data capable of original thought?

  • Sherlock Holmes and copyright issues

The more things change, the more they stay the same.  The conversations surrounding AI have seemingly not changed.  The same conversations were had during The Original Series, Next Generation, and today.

A few other points

  • Gregg has some explaining to do (when he comes back)

  • Star Trek/Star Wars bar trivia

Final Thoughts

This week, we learned:

  • Abbie and I know more about Star Wars than Nate

  • Different effectiveness in stories exploring humanity

  • AI conversations have not meaningfully changed in the past 40 years (60 when we consider the same conversations from TOS)

A generally strong start to the second season (The Child notwithstanding).  Looking forward to more.

As always, remember – Never give up!  Never surrender!